+Tom Marshall thanks, I'm looking for a video conference alternative to hangouts, not an alternative client... The alternative client could possibly work for the use case, but it would have to support video, which that client doesn't.
+Gil Gonçalves thanks, appear.in seems nice to set up quick small meetings, hassle-free... Not quite what I want, specially due to the 8 users limit... I'm looking for something that could be used, for instance, to do an internet debate...
+Rui Seabra tried that, five people with different levels of "working", from "totally unusable" to "works for me"... BigBlueButton is closer to working as we want, but not if you don't have flash... I am hoping there are more mature solutions out there...